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Of course, the conversations now turn to whether he will be enshrined in Canton. There are those who say yes, some who say maybe, and those who say no. The fact is, we don't know. There is no formula to get in.
In many of the posts on the topic, the usual comparisons are made. The easiest comparisons are to his peers - Manning, Brady, Favre, Brees, and others. The other comparisons I've seen are to players like Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly, Troy Aikman, and Warren Moon, all four of whom are in Canton.
My post is not about whether he was a good quarterback or not, and whether he should or should not be in the Hall of Fame. This post is about whether or not he was a good passer. And how did he compare to his peers? And where would he rank in terms of recent quarterbacks who have retired? And how would he compare to all quarterbacks? These are the questions I will explore. All of these questions will be answered in the context of his passing ability in relation to the others.
Ok, let's start with a look back at his performance over the years.
Several things jump out at me.
His career passer rating, for one. It's very high. According to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Warner's career passer rating of 93.7 ranks fifth best all-time, behind Steve Young, Philip Rivers, Tony Romo and Peyton Manning. As I have discussed before, the NFL passer rating formula isn't a very meaningful way to compare quarterbacks over time. I'll discuss how we adjust the passer rating, and even simplify it, and then compare that figure to his peers, in order to get a more meaningful picture. The average passer rating of 95.1 shown above differs from that shown by the Pro Football Hall of Fame simply because mine is just a simple average of each year.
Another fact that jumps out at me is that he got a late start. He didn't start really playing until he was 28. In my database of 416 quarterbacks going all the way back to 1932, including players from both the AAFC in the late 1940's and the AFL in the 1960's, and only looking at quarterbacks who have qualified in 8 or more years, only 7 quarterbacks had their first qualifying season at age 28 or later. For all quarterbacks who qualified in at least 8 seasons, both the median and mean age at which they qualified in their first season is 24. There are a total of 77 quarterbacks who qualified in at least 8 seasons. Keep in mind that the average number of years in which a quarterback qualifies (given that he qualifies in at least 1 year) is 4.125, and median number of years is 3. So to be one of only 7 quarterbacks who began at age 28 or later and qualify in 8 different seasons is pretty rare company. The other six players are Jeff Garcia and Roger Staubach at age 29, and Warren Moon, Billy Kilmer, Ken Stabler, and Brad Johnson at age 28. Note that Staubach and Moon are both in the Hall of Fame.
Next thing I notice is that there are many gaps in his career. He got injured, then was signed by the NY Giants as an insurance policy against Eli Manning. Following that, he ended up getting an opportunity to play in Arizona, until the Cardinals drafted Matt Leinart. When Leinart got hurt in the fifth game of the 2007 season, Kurt stepped in, and went on to lead the Cardinals into Superbowl XLIII, and into the playoffs this past season, where the Cardinals lost to eventual Superbowl Champs New Orleans.
It is extremely difficult to use the NFL Passer Rating system, especially the career passer rating for a given quarterback to see how they compare to other quarterbacks. Just take a look at the list provided by the Pro Football Hall of Fame. This is simply not a list of the best passers over time. It merely reflects the fact that the passer rating calculation favors current passers. I have previously shown (here) why this is not an accurate reflection of passing ability.
Perhaps one way to adjust the passer rating is to reflect the standards such that the average in each year turns out to be 66.7 (as the intended application of the passer rating). See my post on the subject here. In that regard, Warner's (adjusted) career passer rating is around 83. Of the 416 quarterbacks, that would rank him 23rd. Of the quarterbacks qualifying in 8 or more years, it would rank him 10th.
While the Adjusted Passer Rating is better than the NFL Passer Rating, in that at least one can compare quarterbacks from one era with those of another, it's still not an ideal (or simple) measure of a passer's effectiveness. I've used CMTI in the past, and I'll use it here. More specifically, I'll use the CMTIPR, or percentile rank of CMTI.
In my previous post, I compared Manning, Favre and Brees using CMTIPR. We had to adjust CMTIPR for length of career, and I used their best seasons as the measure. At the end of that post, a graphical illustration showed the effect. I've since improved upon that concept. Using the concept of "Best Seasons", I've come up with 4 statistical measures, C1, C4, C7 and C10, that basically shows a given quarterback's best season (C1), 4 best seasons (C4), 7 best seasons (C7) and 10 best seasons (C10). C1 is simply the quarterback's best season in terms of percentile rank of CMTI. C4 is similarly the sum of the percentile ranks of his 4 best seasons, and so on.
So let's take a look at Warner, and how he compares to Manning, Favre, and Brees.
Obviously, neither Brees nor Warner will have a C10 score as they've not had 10 seasons in which they qualified. I don't think one can evaluate a career based on 1 year, so let's not use C1. It is shown simply for illustration purposes to highlight their best year. So that leaves us with C4 or C7. In order to truly define greatness, one must exemplify superior performance, but also perform at that level for a number of years. The more years performing at a high level, the greater the player. I think that C7 strikes a good balance. In my database, there are 50 quarterbacks who have a C10 score, 95 quarterbacks who have a C7 score, and 169 quarterbacks who have a C4 score. So, at least based on a C7 score, Warner compares very favorably to Manning, Favre and Brees.
We will go into much more details regarding the C scores for quarterbacks in my next post.
